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Aug 22

All the (great!) talk about Pitchfork’s People’s List is making me think about the idea of a nationally representative poll that asked people about their favorite albums. What would that be like? What would it mean? Is it even a thing we desire? The 12% representation of women in the voter pool for the Pitchfork list is highly problematic, but we wouldn’t necessarily be interested in the results from a true national sample, either. Why would we want to know, again, that most people like the Beatles? What the poll was an attempt to do was to capture the opinions of a particular subpopulation - “Pitchfork readers,” a legitimate subpopulation of interest - that’s hard to define without just getting people to opt-in. A poll of those people that actually reflected the demographics of the readership would be great. But again: is that even something we’re interested in? Do we actually want to know the list of albums most people who read Pitchfork think are the best albums, or are we really interested in seeing what happens when we urge people who read Pitchfork to tell us what their favorite albums are? That seems to be the important thread running through all the commentary I’ve seen: not that the big list is meaningful, but the way the process played out was, with the final tally as an indicator of what happened. (Which is why it’s so nice the website lets you break it down by demographics.) We’re talking about, and seeing, are polling effects, not polling results.

Anyway, I guess what I’m saying is that the World Values Survey should really, really, really include a “What’s your favorite album?” question on their next round.


  1. shuttershutternoise reblogged this from tomewing and added:
    I’m kinda using this list to try and catch albums that are great but that I, for some reason or another, haven’t...
  2. hardcorefornerds reblogged this from davebloom and added:
    That makes a lot of sense, and I think I was halfway there because I knew that total number of votes and total number of...
  3. lastbutnotleast reblogged this from tomewing and added:
    “actually like” Led Zeppelin...stage well before
  4. davebloom reblogged this from hardcorefornerds and added:
    My understanding is that the percentages given represent the total number of points based on votes cast (with votes for...
  5. thesefewpresidents reblogged this from hardcorefornerds and added:
    Just to skip over all the serious discussion and address the bit in bold… Have you met any fifteen to twenty year olds?...
  6. tomewing reblogged this from hardcorefornerds and added:
    The distinction index can’t be “proportion of [group] who voted...percentages are way too...
  7. minimoonstar said: We *hope* that Pitchfork’s readership is more than 12% women, but since they don’t have comments we can’t even know this!
  8. sciencevsromance reblogged this from barthel
  9. rendit said: They disenfranchised me by forcing me to sign in through Facebook which is something I will never do.
  10. bg5000 reblogged this from barthel and added:
    most interesting part...“Distinction Index”, because
  11. bmichael said: I don’t think that’s what people are interested in.
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